The Daily Telegraph reports: "European leaders will redraft key treaties to ensure that beleaguered economies cannot borrow or spend too much in future as a condition of receiving billions of euros in rescue packages."
Bill Cash was quoted as saying: "Despite all the talk about it being a limited treaty change this is real fundamental change," Moreover, he said "Germany is pushing with determination to have a Europe made in its own image. The changes are a fundamental change in the relationship between Britain and Europe. A referendum is absolutely demanded."
The ESM Treaty has not been ratified yet by any parliament.
The treaty is expected to be ratified before 31 December 2012.
How do we find information on which European parliamenst have already ratified the ESM Treaty? Specifically, Greece for example.
I am not sure when you write about a Treaty Change if you mean the proposed ESM Treaty.
“The ESM Treaty ‘intrudes’ (I use “intrudes” as a polite way of putting it) on the Treaty of Lisbon which is lodged in the Vienna Convention on the law of Treaties. This ESM Treaty affects all 27 member states that ratified the original Treaty, and not just the 17 in the Euro area. The 17 can’t just “go off” on a tangent with a new Treaty, especially when it “disturbs” the original Treaty of Lisbon.
However, if they can, then so can THE REMAINING 10 COUNTRIES NOT IN THE EURO ALSO CAN-AND MUST-MAKE A VERY DIFFERENT TREATY LIKE TAKING THEIR FISHING BACK AND WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR 12 MILE LIMIT, MOST CERTAINLY NOT ALLOWING THEIR ENGLAND TO BE DIVIDED UP INTO EU REGIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE EU’S LOCALISM BILL GOING THROUGH OUR PARLIAMENT AT PRESENT etc, etc. MY GOODNESS, THE LIST IS ENDLESS.
The ESM Treaty will have legal Personality and if THAT isn’t giving it more POWER I don’t know what will.
You will all want a referendum on it if you read Art 8, 9.and 10. with particular attention to Art 27 and 30.
When I am writing about the same treaty change as you Mr Cash, without doubt a referendum is required on the ESM Treaty. and I repeat-WITHOUT DOUBT.
Please also remember the “No Bail out” clause has been breached too.
The above is not just a Treaty Change, it is a new Treaty that intrudes on the Treaty of Lisbon and gives itself new Competences.